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-{{InfoBox|text=The following is for historical interest only. This service has been spun down as it is on mailman3 and runs a potentially vulnerable version of exim. See [[#News]] for more information.}}
-====== Mailman ======
-This runs on ood. The setup is very debian and boring and default. The lists file should probably be backed up.
-  *  Admin is by email and by web, for example: http://lists.tardis.ed.ac.uk/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/ilovekfc
-  *  It's not got any spam filtering on it... yet.
-  *  To make a new list:
-  ood:/etc/mailman# newlist ilovekfc
-  Enter the email of the person running the list: bung@tardis.ed.ac.uk
-  Initial ilovekfc password:
-  To finish creating your mailing list, you must edit your /etc/aliases (or
-  equivalent) file by adding the following lines, and possibly running the
-  `newaliases' program:
-  ## ilovekfc mailing list
-  ilovekfc:              "|/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman post ilovekfc"
-  ilovekfc-admin:        "|/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman admin ilovekfc"
-  ilovekfc-bounces:      "|/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman bounces ilovekfc"
-  ilovekfc-confirm:      "|/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman confirm ilovekfc"
-  ilovekfc-join:         "|/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman join ilovekfc"
-  ilovekfc-leave:        "|/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman leave ilovekfc"
-  ilovekfc-owner:        "|/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman owner ilovekfc"
-  ilovekfc-request:      "|/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman request ilovekfc"
-  ilovekfc-subscribe:    "|/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman subscribe ilovekfc"
-  ilovekfc-unsubscribe:  "|/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman unsubscribe ilovekfc"
-  Hit enter to notify ilovekfc owner...
-  ood:/etc/mailman# vim /etc/aliases # like it says
-  ood:/etc/mailman# newaliases
-{{InfoBox|text=Tardis no longer uses ecartis - the following is for historical interest only.}}
-====== Ecartis ======
-This runs on mccoy, and enjoys the same setup as mccoy (blacklisting, whitelisting, yellowlisting, redlisting, addyourminorityherelisting).
-  *  It's crap. Things break. It should be avoided.
-  *  All admin is done by email (subscription, user adding, etc etc) (unless you're root on tardis)
-====== Moving lists from ecartis to mailman ======
-  *  Make the new list on ood, as above. The following assumes you're the list admin (if you're not you probably should make yourself, and switch things over when things are stable). Maybe everything could be done with files. Or maybe something in the 'listadmin' package will do this all for you.
-  *  On mccoy you can find the subscribers by:
-  root@mccoy:/var/lib/ecartis/lists/listname# cat users | awk '{print $1}'
-  *  Spam these users into http://lists.tardis.ed.ac.uk/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/listname/members/add
-  *  Forward listname@tardis to listname@lists.tardis by changing the entries in mccoy:/etc/postfix/listar.aliases
-  # Aliases for 'listname' mailing list.
-  listname: listname@lists.tardis.ed.ac.uk
-  listname-owner: listowner@tardis.ed.ac.uk
-  *  newaliases on mccoy
-  *  All should be done! Tell the list admins the new preferred ways to subscribe to the list (i.e. web interface and whatnot, find the links in the web interface).
-  *  At some point, postgrey died when I was doing this. My fault? Who knows. Make sure it's running on mccoy or things will die.
-  *  The default behaviour of ecartis is to have the reply going to the list, in mailman it goes to the sender by default. Change this in: http://lists.tardis.ed.ac.uk/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/listname/?VARHELP=general/reply_goes_to_list if you care.
-  *  If the list is redirected externally, you may find things are moderated that you're not expecting. See http://www.washington.edu/computing/mailman/faqs/mailman.moderate.why.html
-====== Archives ======
-  *  By default, mailman archives lists, and publishes without restrictions. Fortunately, the software also allows you to publish them privately (mailman gives all list members a password). Of course, admins have the choice of disabling archiving completely.
-====== Policy ======
-There seem to be a plethora of mailing lists. Current policy seems to be that the list admin must have a Tardis account, but group accounts aren't required.
-====== Spam ======
-Spamassassin is disabled as I thought it did (for at least one list) more harm than good. Spam that should have been discarded was pending moderation. --Bung 17:08, 22 June 2007 (BST)
-Logging is done to ''ood:/var/log/mailman/vette''
-====== News ======
-===== 2020-06-22 we spun down ood =====
-We spun down the service because apparently it's running a vulnerable version of exim. I checked the 'public' lists (ai@, compsoc@, philsoc-committee@, and more) and they all had no entries in the past five years.
-I also checked the logs (<code>/var/log/mailman/smtp</code> and <code>gzcat /var/log/mailman/smtp.2.gz</code>0 and only these public lists had hits in the last week or so. The last week or so isn't a great a metric but I'm somewhat confident that nobody is using this service.
-**IF YOU ARE USING THIS SERVICE. COME ON IRC OR DISCORD AND SHOUT AT US, AND WE WILL PUT SOME WORK INTO BRINGING IT BACK UP.** (See the homepage for IRC/Discord links.)
---Qaisjp (talk) 10:41, 22 June 2020 (BST)